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View PostWhenWeWereKings, on 30 August 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

Didnít Wlad knock him out in sparring a few times?
Thatís right, I have heard that.
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View PostWhenWeWereKings, on 30 August 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

Wladís straight right hand wouldíve been all sorts of trouble for Havana Fats.

Iím going to guess Wlad would have gassed out like he always did against top guys.
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View PostWhenWeWereKings, on 30 August 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

Didnít Wlad knock him out in sparring a few times?

Who cares if he did. They wear headgear. Wladís china chin couldnít have taken Wilderís power in a real fight.
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View PostEl Juan, on 30 August 2018 - 09:03 PM, said:

Who cares if he did. They wear headgear. Wlad's china chin couldn't have taken Wilder's power in a real fight.
:lol: :lol: :lol: you get upset when anyone questions Wilder.  It's so pathetic.

BTW, both Lewis and Tyson called AJ the best in the game this week.  Are you ok with that?
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View PostWhenWeWereKings, on 30 August 2018 - 09:09 PM, said:

:lol:/> :lol:/> :lol:/> you get upset when anyone questions Wilder.  It's so pathetic.

BTW, both Lewis and Tyson called AJ the best in the game this week.  Are you ok with that?

Iím not upset, and Lewis and Tyson can say what they want.
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View PostEl Juan, on 30 August 2018 - 09:03 PM, said:

Who cares if he did. They wear headgear. Wlad's china chin couldn't have taken Wilder's power in a real fight.

We'll never know.

Quack Quack Wilder.
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View Post9secondko, on 30 August 2018 - 12:27 AM, said:

It's not just who he beat. It's how he beat them.

AJ has one name on his resume: Wlad. And that has an asterisk. And old, shot Wlad who was just beaten up by Tyson Fury in his prior bout.

The Luis Ortiz that fought wilder would have beaten any other heavyweight, except perhaps AJ. But her likely have given Joshua his first L.

Wlad struggles nightly with Jennings Nearly didn't get the W. In contrast Ortiz dominantly destroyed Jennings like he was nothing.

Then AJ goes on to hit canvas and nearly get stopped by Wlad before coming back to win. And then Wilder drops and stops Ortiz.

The nod goes to wilder as Ortiz was the better opponent at that stage.

AJ is the genuine article.  He doesn't look polished, probably due to his size, but he has what it takes.  He's still getting better.  Wlad was overly cautious, but he beat Jennings clearly.  I would love to see AJ vs Ortiz though.  Ortiz is active and motivated, but I'm going with AJ because he can get up from a serious knockdown and come back.  Not sure if Ortiz can do the same.
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