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Cotto is still undefeated: Mayweather
ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 03/01/2012 8:19 AM | Updated as of 03/01/2012 9:54 AM

MANILA, Philippines –American boxing star Floyd Mayweather Jr. will go into his May 5 fight against Miguel Cotto with the mindset that he is going up against an undefeated boxer.

Mayweather, who holds a 42-0 record, will fight Cotto at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Cotto has a 37-2 win-loss record, with his two losses coming against Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito.
“In my mind, Miguel Cotto is still undefeated,” Mayweather said during their press conference in New York, as quoted by RingTV.

“He lost to one guy who was cheating, and to another guy at a catch weight,” he added.

Margarito defeated Cotto via an 11th round technical knockout when they fought in 2008, but the Mexican boxer was discovered to be using illegal hand wraps when he faced Shane Mosley in 2009.

Cotto also lost to Pacquiao in 2009 via 12th round TKO. It was held at a 145-pound catchweight. Cotto lost the World Boxing Organization welterweight belt in that match.

Since his loss to Pacquiao, Cotto has campaigned at the junior middleweight division, where he has won three straight fights and annexed the World Boxing Association junior middleweight title.

“Miguel Cotto is a solid junior middleweight, a strong champion,” Mayweather said. “I wanted to fight him at 154-pounds so there would be no excuses.”

Cotto will be defending the WBA junior middleweight belt in their fight.

The Puerto Rican boxer explained that he chose to fight Mayweather rather than accept a rematch with Pacquiao because of “better benefits.”

“We received an offer from Mayweather, and the other choice came from Top Rank offering a rematch with Pacquiao. We received better benefits from Mayweather. It’s business,” Cotto said.

“Mayweather wanted to fight me at 154 and that makes me feel good.”

Cotto is confident that he can overwhelm Mayweather with his power, adding, “I plan on slowing down his speed and movement like I did (Shane) Mosley a few years ago.”

Mayweather, for his part, is sure that he can extend his undefeated streak.

“Everyone they put in front of me, I beat. Floyd Mayweather is a winner, and at the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather is not a cheater,” he said.
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bomani-d's Photo bomani-d 29 Feb 2012

lol all floyd's assbackwards logic doesn't erase the 2 mudhole stompings  cotto absorbed.  ring wear is ring wear
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Scott DeMalteris's Photo Scott DeMalteris 29 Feb 2012

Mayweather is such a hypocrite.  I guess that Mayweather never beat Marquez, since JMM had to come up to welterweight.
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CapoScarfo's Photo CapoScarfo 01 Mar 2012

Floyd Mayweather is making Cotto out to be superman to sell this tuneup non PPV worthy fight. Casual boxing fans will eat this fight up & think Mayweather is fighting a fresh elite opponent in Cotto. IMO Cotto has a very close fight against an older Shane Mosley back when. How the hell is Cotto going to beat Mayweather 2012? Come on!!!!!!! I'm not buying this fight! Ok, I lied, i'm going buy & cry about it the next day. Help! I'm a sucker for boxing!
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1hitrquitr's Photo 1hitrquitr 01 Mar 2012

I was wondering how Floyd was going to keep his foot out of his own mouth, with his left over statements about PAC.  Apparently he's fighting the best Cotto we've ever seen.  because Cotto is "comfortable" at 154.
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9secondko's Photo 9secondko 01 Mar 2012

So according to floyds version of logic, he never beat jmm because of both the reasons he states about Cott:

1) the fight was at catchweight.

And

2) he cheated.

The guy is losing it.
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turbotime's Photo turbotime 01 Mar 2012

Floyd is right on the money in these assessments.
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9secondko's Photo 9secondko 01 Mar 2012

 turbotime, on 01 March 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

Floyd is right on the money in these assessments.

Riiiiiiight...

Because his fan club says so...

Then you are happy to admit he didn't beat Marquez right?
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 9secondko, on 01 March 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Riiiiiiight...

Because his fan club says so...

Then you are happy to admit he didn't beat Marquez right?
Yup, I don't hold that fight against Marquez whatsoever.
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 turbotime, on 01 March 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:


Yup, I don't hold that fight against Marquez whatsoever.

And Floyd doesn't get credit for it according to his own logic.

But the fact remains in the real world that Floyd fought Marquez at a catchweight and still cheated and win a UD.

PAC fought Cotto at one lb less than Cotto usually weighed in at and beat the snot out of him.

Margarito waged a war that looked similar to their rematch. Antonio may have cheated in the first fight. But he also may not have.

Ultimately, Floyd is trying to rewrite history to follow the rules of his own logic.

But that's not the truth. And history is what it is  floyd has no say on the matter. It is Floyd trying to build up a beat down opponent.

Floyd beat jmm and Cotto lost to PAC and Marg, then fled the division to feast on a cripple, a shot bum, and another beat down guy with one good eye. Revealing a corto who struggled with such guys and a lot of facial scar tissue in his last fight.

Enter Floyd-Cotto.





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 9secondko, on 01 March 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

And Floyd doesn't get credit for it according to his own logic.

But the fact remains in the real world that Floyd fought Marquez at a catchweight and still cheated and win a UD.

PAC fought Cotto at one lb less than Cotto usually weighed in at and beat the snot out of him.

Margarito waged a war that looked similar to their rematch. Antonio may have cheated in the first fight. But he also may not have.

Ultimately, Floyd is trying to rewrite history to follow the rules of his own logic.

But that's not the truth. And history is what it is  floyd has no say on the matter. It is Floyd trying to build up a beat down opponent.

Floyd beat jmm and Cotto lost to PAC and Marg, then fled the division to feast on a cripple, a shot bum, and another beat down guy with one good eye. Revealing a corto who struggled with such guys and a lot of facial scar tissue in his last fight.

Enter Floyd-Cotto.





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Yeah, not reading that crap.
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9secondko's Photo 9secondko 01 Mar 2012

 turbotime, on 01 March 2012 - 01:52 AM, said:


Yeah, not reading that crap.

Expected from someone who lacks the ability to comprehend.
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 bomani-d, on 29 February 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

lol all floyd's assbackwards logic doesn't erase the 2 mudhole stompings  cotto absorbed.  ring wear is ring wear

The 1st part of your post is accurate but you can't use "ring wear" as any barometer to judge Cotto.   He's shown that there are no after effects of those 2 beatdowns.   If ring wear were an issue then Arturo Gatti would never have had a career - nor would George Chuvalo and the Ward vs Gatti trilogy would've never been.
There are some fighters who can take hellacious shots all nite long and be fresh and unchanged in the next fight.   Some never recover - Cotto is just not one of them.
Miguel learned from those glaring mistakes in his preparation.   IMHO he never would've lost to Marg had he been trained by Steward and worked on his angles,  speed and footwork.   He was a fairly static, squared up target and paid for it.     Ditto for the Pac fight + he was drained.   If he had been at his most comfortable weight vs. Manny and had Steward working those kinks outa his technique,  the fight would've been much different.    I don't think he could've beaten Pac but it would've been a very close and competitive fight.
FMJ would've destroyed that version of Cotto - the one that faced Marg in their 1st fight,   but Miguel has progressed tremendously since then.   He's going to make this a very tough fight for Floyd.    There are going to be surprises in store for the naysayers.
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turbotime's Photo turbotime 01 Mar 2012

It's funny because people are now using Mayweather logic to justify why this fight is no good :lol:
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 Scott DeMalteris, on 29 February 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Mayweather is such a hypocrite.  I guess that Mayweather never beat Marquez, since JMM had to come up to welterweight.
And it was a catch weight.  Oh, and Floyd was over the weight by two pounds.
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