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Ortiz Vs Lopez

watson748's Photo watson748 23 Jun 2012

Anybody staying up for this?

Its on Sky Sports 1 tonight/this morning at 2am.

Its in LA Staples so I reckon it'll be another 5am start. I very much doubt I'll make it. :(  In fact I'm almost certain I be giving it the old bouncing rubber neck around 01.30am.  Sucks being old.Posted Image
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BoxingFan's Photo BoxingFan 23 Jun 2012

Not intentionally, but I've not had more than a few hours sleep per night due to insomonia in months, so you never know. :lol:
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ROCKYMARSHMELLOW's Photo ROCKYMARSHMELLOW 23 Jun 2012

Nah,  not a big enough fight to stay up for.  Only stay up for the big fights these days.  I'll watch it when I get up tomoz.
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hitman_hatton1's Photo hitman_hatton1 23 Jun 2012

just woke up.

didn't know this was on sky.  :D
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hitman_hatton1's Photo hitman_hatton1 23 Jun 2012

fights over.

ortiz quits at the end of rd 9 on a mouth injury.

missed all of it.

a few highlights in the afterfight.

feisty scrap. :cool2:
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hitman_hatton1's Photo hitman_hatton1 23 Jun 2012

broken jaw apparently.

ortiz ahead on all the cards.
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ROCKYMARSHMELLOW's Photo ROCKYMARSHMELLOW 24 Jun 2012

I know it's a broken jaw and it shouldn't be down played.  But countless other boxers have fought through the pain of a broken jaw and even some of them have gone on to win.   I ain't seen the fight yet,  sounds good.  Definitely something not right with Ortiz's temperament.  From Maidana,  then Mayweather....  something not right with the kid.    But then he can go all out against the likes of Berto.  

It's a strange one with Ortiz,  he's got the talent but fights like a fucking lunatic.  Must be so frustrating for his trainer.
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crakaveli's Photo crakaveli 24 Jun 2012

He has a seriously leaky defense, I couldn't believe how easy Peterson was finding the right hand in the second half of their fight

To beat Ortiz all you have to do is weather the early storm, dig in and put pressure on him and he'll fold
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mike john's Photo mike john 24 Jun 2012

 BoxingFan, on 23 June 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Not intentionally, but I've not had more than a few hours sleep per night due to insomonia in months, so you never know. :lol:

the lord giveth with one hand, and taketh with the other
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watson748's Photo watson748 24 Jun 2012

I agree with both of you.

 ROCKYMARSHMELLOW, on 24 June 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

I know it's a broken jaw and it shouldn't be down played.  But countless other boxers have fought through the pain of a broken jaw and even some of them have gone on to win.   I ain't seen the fight yet,  sounds good.  Definitely something not right with Ortiz's temperament.  From Maidana,  then Mayweather....  something not right with the kid. But then he can go all out against the likes of Berto.  

It's a strange one with Ortiz,  he's got the talent but fights like a fucking lunatic.  Must be so frustrating for his trainer.

Danny Williams fought and KO'd Potter with a dislocated right arm and Arthur Abraham beat Miranda over 12 rounds after breaking his jaw in two places in round five. The guy just quit very easily imo based on others who had similar injuries.

 crakaveli, on 24 June 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

He has a seriously leaky defense, I couldn't believe how easy Peterson was finding the right hand in the second half of their fight

To beat Ortiz all you have to do is weather the early storm, dig in and put pressure on him and he'll fold

You could see as soon as Lopez began beckoning Ortiz in (which I thought at the time was a display of daft bravado considering on both occasions he did this he had just been battered from pillar to post), Ortiz immediately began to retreat. It was as if Ortiz was suddenly scared that this man had willingly sucked up everything he had thrown and was now happily asking for more.
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ROCKYMARSHMELLOW's Photo ROCKYMARSHMELLOW 24 Jun 2012

 watson748, on 24 June 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I agree with both of you.



Danny Williams fought and KO'd Potter with a dislocated right arm and Arthur Abraham beat Miranda over 12 rounds after breaking his jaw in two places in round five. The guy just quit very easily imo based on others who had similar injuries.



You could see as soon as Lopez began beckoning Ortiz in (which I thought at the time was a display of daft bravado considering on both occasions he did this he had just been battered from pillar to post), Ortiz immediately began to retreat. It was as if Ortiz was suddenly scared that this man had willingly sucked up everything he had thrown and was now happily asking for more.


Yep I noticed that,  his ass dropped.  Definitely something missing with Ortiz when it comes to the old mental aspect of the game.  Shame really because whilst he's obviously not elite class he is still a very exciting boxer to watch and he could easily be a fans favourite in the same sense as Gatti was because of his fighting style.  Sadly,  I think the quitter stigma will stick with him from now on.
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ROCKYMARSHMELLOW's Photo ROCKYMARSHMELLOW 24 Jun 2012

Thinking about it,  it's probably a wise move by Ortiz in the long run and for his health.  Obviously he will have to put up with more ' quitter ' remarks off people,  but It must not be very healthy for someone to have a broken jaw and carry on getting cracked on it.  Could easily do permanent damage when you think about it.  

Have we had the word it's deffo broken ?
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Jon Saxon's Photo Jon Saxon 24 Jun 2012

broken sternum.
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watson748's Photo watson748 24 Jun 2012

 Jon Saxon, on 24 June 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

broken sternum.
Ortiz has broken his chestbone? :unsure:
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DG.'s Photo DG. 25 Jun 2012

He took took too many chances and solid shots.

The mouthpiece is there for a reason, bite down on it my friend!
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