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Pound 4 Pound Rankings?! Garbage

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 The_Ikon, on 29 June 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

This is a boxing forum. .... that discusses boxing.... about boxers....
Oh really? :lol:
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 The_Ikon, on 29 June 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

This is a boxing forum. .... that discusses boxing.... about boxers....


You clearly did not get the point.  You realize P4P stand for POUND 4 POUND.  It is intended to figure out the best boxer in the world regardless of weight.  The point is to say compare Sugar Ray Robinson to Ali.  Or Mayweather to Vlad and Vitali.  Pound 4 Pound is meaningless when guys weigh the same because you don't need it to figure out who is better.  To figure out who is better, they just need to fight.

Thus, if fighting each other is too big a waste of their time then discussing who is better should be to big a waste of ours.
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I won't take this list sreiously until is see Wlad Klitschko and Andre Ward in the top three. They are the most sound, dominant fighters alive whether you like them or not.
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 Fisticuffs, on 30 June 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

I won't take this list sreiously until is see Wlad Klitschko and Andre Ward in the top three. They are the most sound, dominant fighters alive whether you like them or not.
So you think if every fighter in the world was the same size ward and wlad klitschko could beat everyone except whoever else you think should be in the top 3?
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 Danko, on 29 June 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

neither of them deserve the top spot anymore.

 atruesoutherngentleman, on 29 June 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

All the top guys are declining but they remain because the new crop haven't seized the torch... if Manny, Floyd, JMM, Cotto, etc... all retired, who is carrying the sport?

If Andre Ward isnt #1 right now he will be after September. His combination of skill and resume is second to none at the moment. He will run out of opponents soon.

 Fisticuffs, on 30 June 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

I won't take this list sreiously until is see Wlad Klitschko and Andre Ward in the top three. They are the most sound, dominant fighters alive whether you like them or not.
Undoubtedly. How boxing fans overlook Wards skill and domination of top tier competition is beyond me.

 scarecrow, on 30 June 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

So you think if every fighter in the world was the same size ward and wlad klitschko could beat everyone except whoever else you think should be in the top 3?
Ward yes, Wlad no. I think Wlad would be average against any real top tier talent. If all things were equal between he and the other dominate champions in various divisions he would lose more often than not IMO. Wards skill translate against anyone of the top tier boxers today. He is right along side Floyd and Manny when arguing who is the best P4P fighter in the world.
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