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Cotto's pride prevented Pac rematch
Says he wasn't offered fair money or terms for another Manny Pacquiao bout
Updated: October 5, 2012, 11:11 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com

Cotto Focused For Trout Fight
Miguel Cotto says he expects the usual -- to train hard and win -- for his Dec. 1 fight with Austin Trout at New York's Madison Square Garden.

The two-city media tour to New York and Puerto Rico is over, and Miguel Cotto is now beginning to train for his next fight -- just not the one many thought he would be getting ready for.

Cotto, the three-division titleholder and one of boxing's biggest stars, has been working out at home in Puerto Rico, but on Saturday he'll leave with trainer Pedro Diaz and his team for the mountains of Big Bear, Calif. Cotto will train at elevation for 22 days and then spend the remaining weeks of his training camp in Orlando, Fla., where he has prepared for his other recent fights.



Dobbs Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business.
” -- Cotto on why he chose a lower-profile fight for lesser money against Austin Trout rather than a rematch with Manny Pacquiao

But Cotto isn't training for the fight that many thought he would be in, namely a rematch of his 12th-round knockout loss to Manny Pacquiao in a 2009 welterweight title bout.

Of the three potential opponents Pacquiao was presented with by Top Rank's Bob Arum for a Dec. 8 HBO PPV fight, Cotto was the one preferred by Pacquiao -- rather than a fourth fight with Juan Manuel Marquez or a rematch with Timothy Bradley Jr.

But Cotto, a promotional free agent who had spent his entire career with Top Rank (aside from his May fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.) had other ideas. Sure, Cotto was open to facing Pacquiao again -- and when has Cotto ever ducked a tough opponent? -- but he is also a proud man.

Feeling disrespected, Cotto refused to take a deal that wasn't to his liking and rejected Arum's offer. Instead, he decided to work again with Golden Boy, which put on the Mayweather fight, and accepted a fight with junior middleweight titlist Austin Trout for far less money.

They will meet Dec. 1 (Showtime) at New York's Madison Square Garden -- Cotto's home away from home -- which always rocks with his Puerto Rican fans when he fights there. It will be Cotto's eighth fight at the Garden, where his record is perfect (8-0, 4 KOs).

Why would Cotto pick Trout (25-0, 14 KOs), a good fighter with a belt but a virtual unknown, over Pacquiao, the global star? What gives?


Money and weight is what gives.

For the 2009 fight, Cotto's deal with Top Rank called for a guaranteed $6.5 million purse, plus a share of the pay-per-view profits. During the Sergio Martinez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. promotion last month, Arum told boxing reporters that he offered Cotto $13 million for the Pacquiao rematch and estimated that with strong pay-per-view sales Cotto could earn another $2 million from his share of the profits.

Arum said that when Cotto turned it down, he and Pacquiao went with Marquez for Pacquiao's next fight, just one week after Cotto's.

Cotto vigorously disputed Arum's claim.

"The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. "[Arum] made the same offer he made 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds and give him the same advantage that they gave Pacquiao in 2009, a catchweight."

Cotto said he was surprised to read that Arum said he offered him $13 million.

"Bob said he offered us $13 million, but he never came to us with that offer," Cotto said. "He always offered us the same guarantee he offered us in 2009, with the same benefits, and that's not fair. He offered the exact same amount of money. Of course it's a business, but all we want is fair business. You can say to Bob to tell me he made that offer to me to my face, and you will see his reaction.

"Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business."

Even if the money could have been worked out, Cotto said the weight was a major issue.

For the 2009 bout he had agreed to go down to 145 pounds, two less than the welterweight limit, and said it took its toll. If he had taken the rematch at 150, it would mean dropping an additional 4 pounds below the junior middleweight limit of 154, which is where Cotto has fought his four bouts since his loss to Pacquiao.

"If he wants a big name and wants to fight the best, no catchweight," Cotto said of Pacquiao. "Making catchweights is easy for them. They make the other guy have trouble making weight and they take advantage of that. I wasn't going to do that again. I am 154 pounds. I am not going to fight at a catchweight and make myself weak."

Once Cotto (37-3, 30 KOs), 31, moved on from the Pacquiao rematch, Trout came into the picture. "No Doubt" Trout (25-0, 14 KOs), a 27-year-old from Las Cruces, N.M., won a vacant belt in February 2011 and has made three low-profile defenses, including a near-shutout decision against Delvin Rodriguez on a Showtime undercard in June.

So even though Cotto will make far less to fight Trout than he would have made against Pacquiao -- although Cotto wouldn't divulge his purse for the upcoming fight -- he sounded satisfied with what he has in front of him.

"When rematches with Floyd or Manny went out of the picture, the best option was Austin Trout, so we picked Austin Trout to fight," said Cotto, adding that he had never seen Trout fight but would leave the video-studying up to Diaz. "He's a world champion, he's undefeated. He's a dangerous fighter and he was the right opponent for me, but I'll still walk out of the ring with another belt."

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Cotto said one of his motivations for facing Trout was the opportunity to win yet another title. He has already claimed four belts in three divisions: junior welterweight, welterweight and junior middleweight. He lost his junior middleweight title to Mayweather via competitive decision in one of the toughest fights of Mayweather's career.

Now Cotto wants another strap for his collection.

"In 12 years [as a professional], I never think I am going to reach those things -- all those titles, all the victories -- but I am pretty happy and I will work hard to be champion again on Dec. 1," Cotto said. "I'm happy about this fight. I am going to be in New York, my second home, in front of a huge Puerto Rican and Latin crowd, fighting for them, fighting for my country and fighting for myself."

Cotto reinvigorated his career with an emotional revenge victory against Antonio Margarito in December and seemed to get another lift by his performance against Mayweather, even though he lost.

[+] EnlargeFloyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto
AP Photo/Eric JamisonMiguel Cotto, who in May gave Floyd Mayweather Jr. one of the most grueling fights of his career, says he was reenergized by his performance, despite taking the loss.

Cotto performed as well as he has in years, pushed Mayweather to the limit, made yet another exciting fight, and earned a ton of money between his $8 million purse and his share of the profits from the massive 1.5 million pay-per-view buys.

He said he wasn't too down about losing to Mayweather.

"Two or three days after the Mayweather fight, I just realized I did a great job against a great boxer and all I feel is happiness in myself," Cotto said. "I felt good. It gave me more energy to work for more things. I'm happy now and working hard. You can ask [Mayweather] how it was. I know he never faced a guy like Miguel Cotto before."

If Cotto gets past Trout, whose technical style and quickness could pose problems, he would be open to a rematch with Mayweather or a showdown with junior middleweight titlist Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, which would be a big-time fight in the Puerto Rico-versus-Mexico boxing rivalry.

"I'm here for the big names, for the real fights," Cotto said. "I am always willing to fight anybody; I'm ready for anyone as long as there is fair business. Mayweather, fine. Canelo? After this fight, we can sit with his promoter [Golden Boy] and we can figure out something. We can see if we can make this fight reality.

"I'm always a guy who likes to train hard and make really good fights. I'm ready to face anyone in the sport in my division. I'm going to make my best effort to win and always be in an interesting fight."
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lefty lou's Photo lefty lou 05 Oct 2012

how did he let his pride get in the way....cause he didnt want to go down to 154? come on dan your better than that...he just wanted the fight to be fair and i think we can all agree on that.
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mos-def's Photo mos-def 05 Oct 2012

Oooooh, Johnny?? Where you at now???! Does it sound like Cotto and Arum are saying the same thing now???!
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True Fist's Photo True Fist 05 Oct 2012

How can anyone not be a fan of this guy?

That's right Cotto, tell 'em straight! You were giving away advantages the first time around and there is no reason to do it again. I like how he pointed that out.
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 mos-def, on 05 October 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Oooooh, Johnny?? Where you at now???! Does it sound like Cotto and Arum are saying the same thing now???!
No, this is the first time Cotto said this.  It's entirely different than the last article.
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 johnnyblaze, on 05 October 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

No, this is the first time Cotto said this.  It's entirely different than the last article.
Right, this is the first time he actually challenges what Arum says, but he did deny the allegations. As I mentioned before, Cotto was being very professional not mentioning $$ while Arum does it only to make others look, bad without mentioning other concerning factors.

But aside from that, isn't this a pattern we've seen over the years with Arum? When fighters leave him, all of a sudden the unsavory comments begin, whereas before said fighters were highly touted under the TR banner by Arum himself? This is why I refuse to trust anything the old cantankerous bastard says. Ppl can say what they want in regards to what Arum says about Hoya and of course the scourge, FMJ, but Cotto?? C'monnn. The man is likely lying just like he is any other time as far as I'm concerned.

The big issue here, IMO, is why would Pac need yet another advantage to beat a guy he nearly killed and why would Arum thinks he needs such an advantage, even if they were paying Cotto $13M?
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 mos-def, on 05 October 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Right, this is the first time he actually challenges what Arum says, but he did deny the allegations. As I mentioned before, Cotto was being very professional not mentioning $$ while Arum does it only to make others look, bad without mentioning other concerning factors.

But aside from that, isn't this a pattern we've seen over the years with Arum? When fighters leave him, all of a sudden the unsavory comments begin, whereas before said fighters were highly touted under the TR banner by Arum himself? This is why I refuse to trust anything the old cantankerous bastard says. Ppl can say what they want in regards to what Arum says about Hoya and of course the scourge, FMJ, but Cotto?? C'monnn. The man is likely lying just like he is any other time as far as I'm concerned.

The big issue here, IMO, is why would Pac need yet another advantage to beat a guy he nearly killed and why would Arum thinks he needs such an advantage, even if they were paying Cotto $13M?
Because Pac is smaller than Cotto?  I don't know.
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Dan Rafael

  (1:29 PM)



Bob disputed Cotto's version of the Pacquiao offer but did not blame Cotto. He blamed Cotto's attorney, who is the person Arum negotiated with. He actually had nothing but good things to say about Miguel.
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atruesoutherngentleman's Photo atruesoutherngentleman 05 Oct 2012

Cotto is a 154 lb. fighter and has been for some time now. If there is any concern about weight, it should be Manny coming in at 150 lbs. to fight Cotto.

I find it amusing that Manny can step into the ring against a fighter in Margarito, who ended up outweighing by as much as 17lbs, but there is this huge issue regarding Cotto who is a smallish 154lber and isn't going to put on as nearly as much weight on fight night as AM did.

Also factor in that Manny took the AM fight nearly 3 years ago, when he was even smaller than he currently is now, yet he fought a guy who basically outweighed him by 20lbs. And I think many here would agree, that Cotto isn't going to outweigh Manny by 20lbs on the night of the fight.
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DePonce's Photo DePonce 05 Oct 2012

I wonder if Cotto was also offered to fight in the outdoor arena by Arum.  Lol

Good for Cotto.
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 johnnyblaze, on 05 October 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

Because Pac is smaller than Cotto?  I don't know.
Yeah, that's it.

 atruesoutherngentleman, on 05 October 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Cotto is a 154 lb. fighter and has been for some time now. If there is any concern about weight, it should be Manny coming in at 150 lbs. to fight Cotto.

I find it amusing that Manny can step into the ring against a fighter in Margarito, who ended up outweighing by as much as 17lbs, but there is this huge issue regarding Cotto who is a smallish 154lber and isn't going to put on as nearly as much weight on fight night as AM did.

Also factor in that Manny took the AM fight nearly 3 years ago, when he was even smaller than he currently is now, yet he fought a guy who basically outweighed him by 20lbs. And I think many here would agree, that Cotto isn't going to outweigh Manny by 20lbs on the night of the fight.
I agree with everything except the bold portion. Actually, all Pac has to do is come in a smidgen over 147 and he's in the next weight class. Sometimes fighters will have a weight advantage over you, that's the game. as you said, AM was much larger than pac that night and recently Jr. was much larger than SM. But being that the first first wasn't even close, at least in my eyes, it shouldn't even matter. But with team Pac and their weight games, they like to be certain. Must be something about that Cotto...
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 bazooka, on 05 October 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

scumbag arum

Maaaaane he basically called bob the Jew a fuckin liar mane.  He said tell that bitch to say it to my muthafuckin face and I'll kick bob the Jew lying ass mane!

He also basically called that Chinese Maney Pac-mane the catch weight kang!  :lol:  tell Maney to go to sports center first take and say cotto is afraid of him too. I still think maney would possibly beat him but it'll be close mane.
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 ShameLess, on 05 October 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:



Maaaaane he basically called bob the Jew a fuckin liar mane.  He said tell that bitch to say it to my muthafuckin face and I'll kick bob the Jew lying ass mane!

He also basically called that Chinese Maney Pac-mane the catch weight kang!  :lol:  tell Maney to go to sports center first take and say cotto is afraid of him too. I still think maney would possibly beat him but it'll be close mane.

Why does he has to be Bob the Jew? That's lounge talk..

But you're right Cotto ousted him..
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 The_Ikon, on 05 October 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:



Why does he has to be Bob the Jew? That's lounge talk..

But you're right Cotto ousted him..

He's a Jew mane like you're Ikon the nigga mane!
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 ShameLess, on 05 October 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:



He's a Jew mane like you're Ikon the nigga mane!

:lol: I'm black you're a nig from Shreveport!  It's a difference
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