I read on boxingscene website that Dawson said that he congratulate Calzaghe for last night win. But he wants to fight Calzaghe at Calzaghe hometown in wales if Calzaghe wants his farewell fight to be in his hometown. I sure hope Calzaghe got the guts to accept Dawson challenge but i hardly doubt it.

I hope Joe fights Chad...Joe would beat the hell out of Chad. Bad.

I doubt Joe will beat the hell out of a younger very good fighter in Chad Dawson. Do i think Calzaghe has a chance to beat Dawson? Of course but i guarantee you usm that if Calzaghe wins, it won't be an easy win like he got vs Lacy and a shot Jones.

Fuking hell have you people not learned a thing... first it was Calzaghe ain't got the gut's to face Lacy, then Kessler, then it's he ain't never fought in America, then it was he is ducking Hopkins, then it was he won't fight Jones so he fights Jones so it went to he is ducking Pavlik... now it's Dawson.


I hope he retires cos he will never get respect off some people.... " sure hope Calzaghe got the guts ".


The fuking guy has has had 46 fights and just travelled to the other side of the planet and took on two of the best fighters the world as seen in the last 20 years whilst you were having a tug in your bed watching Eastenders.... and you have the nerve to question the guy's guts.


Fuking unreal.

The lack of credit people give Calzaghe is pathetic. First off, the so called "challenge" isn't official. Second of all, Joe would annihilate Dawson in the worst way imaginable. The man's skill is unbelievable and is a problem for anybody, and apparently 46 other opponents. Dawson would get his ass ripped up, and the only thing he'd be happy about after losing to Joe is his paycheck.

There were many people that wanted to see Calzaghe vs a 43 years old Hopkins? There were many people that wanted Calzaghe to fight a shot Jones? Lol Come on rocky. Who you trying to fool? Sure many people wanted to see Calzaghe fight lacy in which he did and won easily and many people wanted to see calzaghe fight kessler in which he did and won by 4 points in my scorecard. So i give him that but there were only a few or barely that wanted to see calzaghe fight a 43 years old hopkins and i bet there are barely anybody that wanted to see calzaghe fight a shot in the dark roy jones. Calzaghe vs Dawson should have happen then calzaghe vs hopkins and calzaghe vs jones imo.

Dude, Joe would smoke Chad. Chad isn't all that great. He isn't going to dominate the division. Hopkins will beat Chad if they fight.


Shut the fuck up- Jones wasn't shot after he beat Tito.

Chad won't have those belts for long. He isn't bad, but he also isn't badass. At all. Glen Johnson is similar to Joe in several respects and I didn't have Dawson winning that fight, as he was on queer street the entire second half of the fight. If that was Joe and not Glen, Chad would have gotten stopped.

U talk like you hardly watch any Dawson fights. The differents between lacy, kessler to Dawson is both both kessler and lacy are not fast fighters with very good boxing slick skills cause that's what dawson brings. Dawson style could give Calzaghe big time problem. Of all the fights Calzaghe faced in his career, he never fought a fighter that has a very good slick style that is not very old ( hopkins is very old)

You don't half waffle some shit, I don't even know what the fuk you are saying here.


So you are saying no one wanted to see Calzaghe fight Jones and Hopkins...


It's the other way round mate, no fuker has even heard of Dawson never mind want to see him fight Calzaghe. Dawson was not even on the radar before the Tarver fight, so I seriously do not know what the fuk you are talking about.

You can't be serious? Jones wasn't a shot fighter after Beating a smaller fighter fat past his prime Trinidad to ud?

I think Hopkins beats Chad Dawson. There I have said it.


Why is it after every fight Calzaghe wins there are people who come out and name another guy that supposedly will beat him... who the fuk is it going to be after Dawson if Calzaghe took that fight.


I am sure you will find someone.

But people were not saying that was they... after the Tito fight when Jones started saying he wanted Calzaghe, UKBC was getting hammered with RJ fans claiming that Jones was going to beat his ass.


Were are those people now... on here saying that Dawson would beat Calzaghe like the sad kunts they are.

You're wrong mate cause many People wanted to see Calzaghe vs Dawson after Calzaghe barely beat a 43 years old Hopkins. Nobody and i mean nobody except biased Calzaghe fans wanted to see Calzaghe vs a shot fighter Roy Jones.

Roy Jones fans before he fought Calzaghe : "Roy would eat up Joe no problem watch"

Roy Jones fans after he lost to Joe Calzaghe : "Roy was shot, but Chad Dawson will eat up Joe no problem watch"

What's your reason why beating Hopkins wasn't a big accomplishment for Joe? Because he's 43? A 43-year old Bernard Hopkins is just as good as a fighter as he's ever been. The man gets better with each fight and is almost damn near impossible to figure out.

Here's my idea of how Chad Dawson fights the rest of the competition out there.

vs Roy Jones - LOSS
vs Bernard Hopkins - LOSS
vs Glen Johnson again - LOSS
and vs Joe Calzaghe ?? - DOMINATE LOSS

Umm just biased Roy Jones fans? That's it? Well i'm one of Roy Jones fans and i didn't want to see a shot Roy Jones faced Calzaghe. Mostly everyone knew Calzaghe would beat a shot Roy Jones. For those that says Jones can beat Calzaghe is just hoping he can do it. I hope i was way wrong and jones pulls it off but i knew calzaghe would be too much for a shot roy jones.

You Think Chad Dawson would lose to a shot Roy Jones?

Joe beats Dawson, then retires, and then we'll hear, "Joe's ducking Diaconu" or whoever.

(And before Hopkins beat Pavlik we heard, "Joe's ducking Pavlik"...)

Oh so the poll which was made this week which had Roy Jones with 70% votes that he was going to win.

And you say no one wanted to see Calzaghe-Jones, that's funny cos the internet was fuking booming last night with fans from all over the world talking about what the outcome would be with most people picking Jones to win.

So quit talking shite, making yaself look a right fuking tool.

No there were many people who thought Jones could win, me included. I made that assumption off Joe's first fight at 175. He didn't look to good.

Last night he was up for it.


I knew there would be people who would discredit a Calzaghe win even though they were voting for Jones, banging on about how Jones was going to do this and that. I picked Jones, but I also said who ever wins get's my respect big time.


You on the other hand just sound like a bitter prick.


Wonder what shit you would come out with if Calzaghe beat Dawson... Probably somewhere along the lines of him being green and overhyped. Heard it all before haven't we.

You wouldn't be saying Roy is shot if he had beaten Joe Calzaghe last night.

And yes, Roy Jones will beat Chad Dawson. BAD.

i'm not saying that Chad would beat Cal, because I don't think he would, but I do find it interesting that some of those who are making the case for why Joe doesn't need to fight Chad are the same ones who had heavy criticism for Floyd's very selective approach to fighting opponents. if Joe retires, then i will respect him for being a great, undefeated champion who has earned his place in the HOF. if, however, he does keep fighting then he owes it to fans and to his legacy to take on the best in his division and right now that is Chad.

here is a little perspective: Cal fought Hops to a toss-up decision that many think he lost. He beat a clearly over-the-hill Roy Jones. And no, I didn't have the view that Roy was rejuvenated because of his last three wins. I knew that Roy was washed up when he found solace in simply ending the third fight with Tarver on his feet. At that point, I knew that he no longer had a fighter's heart. And let's face it - Jeff Lacy was never what some people thought he was. Joe's most impressive win for me was against Kessler and it is because of this fight that I think he'd beat Chad, who is also the younger, stronger and presumably more hungry fighter. I think this fight is almost an exact proxy for what would happen between Joe and Chad.

but to those who feel that Cal has accomplished so much in his fights against Hops, Lacy and Roy and has somehow erased any doubt as to what he would do against top competition, i don't necessarily agree that we have the answer yet. and so yes, i'd like to see him fight Chad Dawson. it's not that i don't respect Joe's accomplishments or think he has anything to prove, but if he's going to continue fighting at all, then he should do it at a high level and not seek easy paydays.

Like you pick your hero Trinidad to tko Jones? Good pick tito4ever.

Well said, if he should keep fighting a Dawson fight sounds good, but I still believe Dawson is mismatched against him.

Everyone with a pulse knew Roy could've taken Tito out at anytime had he turned up the pressure. My TKO pick of Roy was only in support. Said many times, I know Tito would lose but I'm still supporting him.

Also, still doesn't take away the fact that Roy would smash up Chad Dawson had he fight like a hungry fighter. But you'll never see that happen again.

I wouldn't go so far as to call it a mismatch, I just think that Dawson is still a little raw and a crafty vet like Cal would win.

Roy has never fought hungry as a LHW. His superior athleticism allowed him to dominate his opponents when he still had his speed and reflexes. The one exception is in his rematch against Montell Griffin where he truly wanted to kill him. That is an example of how destructive Roy could be and I agree that that Roy would probably dominate Dawson. But the normal Roy who would look to come in and pot-shot would probably just post a boring UD.

Give Dawson a few tough fights and see how he fares. I think someone like Joe runs through him now

That's how I see it. If he fought with the instinct he had going into the rematch with Griffin, I don't think there would be much competition for him.

he's had tough fights. Glen Johnson is a handful for any of the top LHWs out there and they fought to a draw, IMO. Dawson dominated Tarver, who has never been an easy fight for anyone except Hops. So I'd say that Chad is reasonably well-tested and based on what I've seen wouldn't call him a mismatch against any LHW.

Got no problem with what your saying... if Calzaghe fights on then Dawson is the opponent he should face.

My problem is when you get nobs saying " let's see if Calzaghe has the guts " to face Dawson, as if we are still talking about the Calzaghe that has not fought Lacy, Kessler, and gone over to the states twice to face two highly skilled fighters who are in my eyes ATG's of the sport.

We have heard all this shit before, and Calzaghe has done everything that was asked of him from the majority of fight fans. So it's time for people to stop the negativity towards him, give the guy some respect at least.

He is a very good fighter who is extremely tough to beat... who gives two fuks if he is a sheep shagging Welsh fuk or comes from outer fuking mongolia. The guy's good, if he retires he has had a great career and if he carries on then he should fight Dawson. If he beats Dawson then I'm sure there will be another young fighter that everyone will want him to fight.

agree on all points. regardless of whether Cal fights Chad and regardless of the outcome of that fight, he will go down as an ATG to me.

GO DIG A FOX HOLE WITH YOUR NOSE...........YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOXING.......I GUESS YOU DONT KNOW WHO DAWSON IS.....YOU GOT TOO MANY SAND GRAINS IN YOUR BRAIN..........AND I AM SURE YOU NEVER SEEN DAWSON BOX.....I REMEMBER WHEN YOU USE TO HATE JOE........ DARTH KONG

JC should retire, Dawson wont beat him and unless JC wants to fight one more time in Whales and unify belts then this is the only reason he should take the fight but personally he has nothing to gain and should hang them up like he planned to do.

THATS A PUNK MOVE.....IF HE WANTS TO BE CONSIDERED GREAT....TAKE ON A HUNGRY FIGHTER IN DAWSON........LACY IS GARBAGE...KESSLER IS GARBAGE.....KESSLER TURNED DOWN A FIGHT WITH MIRANDA....HA HA HA.............. DARTH KONG

Slowed down and still winning fights doesn't equal shot. Shot is when a fighter gets trucked by someone he should have easily beat, like Tyson-Williams, Tyson-McBride, Vargas-Mayorga, Gatti-Baldomir...That is shot, as none of the fighters who lost in each of the aforementioned fights were even competitive at any point. At least Jones was competitive against Joe Cal. If Jones were totally shot, Joe would have stopped him cold, especially given that he was able to match Jones in speed and was able to fight most of the fight with his hands down like Jones used to do. When Jones gets starched by a journeyman or a gatekeeper or starts becoming non-competitive with them altogether, then I will concede that he is shot.

I don't think Trinidad is past his prime either- he's just about money fights these days. If Trinidad campaigned once again at 147 or 154, I think he'd look good too.

Judah was supposed to be shot, and he dominated his opponent last night with 2 nasty gashes, and I think that Zab will regain his elite status once he commits to the 140 pound division where he belongs.

People say that Juarez is shot- no, he isn't- he needs to campaign at Bantamweight but is cursed with a Bantamweights height and reach, with the build of a featherweight that doesn't allow him to drop to 118 without killing himself.

Weight classes exist for a reason, and obviously Boxers who span multiple weight classes, generally are monsters in one or two in particular, like Zab and Hatton at 140 as opposed to 147, Pavlik at 160 as opposed to 170, Mosley at 135 as opposed to 147 and 154, Trinidad at 147 as opposed to 160-170, Wright at 154 as opposed to 160, you get my point. Does that make these fighters non-world class? No. Does it make these fighters shot if they perform worse at higher weights? No. It just means that they do better in some weight classes then they do others.


When Jones is getting thrashed by guys like Silvio Branco and isn't even competitive, then I will say that he is totally shot, or just shot for that matter.

I hear what you're saying but in the cases of both Roy and Tito, I think they're shot fighters because they no longer possess the mental composition to win against the best opposition. It's not that they are physically unable, it's just that they can't out-will an opponent when they feel inside that their best days are behind them and that they don't have anything to prove anymore. fighters who say that they don't have anything to prove anymore are basically telling us upfront that they are in it for the money and if/when shit gets rough in there, they will likely wilt. HAVING something to prove is what makes you get up off the canvas when dropped or fight through pain, cuts, injuries. which is why i would respect cal if he chose to retire today - because he openly acknowledges that he doesn't feel he has anything left to prove.

in Roy's case, i think that he has a massive ego and goes into big fights these days with the mindset that losing in a semi-competitive fight, while getting paid well, is adequate compensation for knowing that he doesn't have what it takes to win. i point out his ego because he feels that if he fights to a decision against an elite opponent, then for him that's a victory. you can see it in his post-fight interviews. that's not him being a gracious loser, it's him being a winner (in his mind). he's not at all disappointed at losing to Cal because he didn't get KO'd and he got paid - so it's easy to say "he was just better than me tonight... i respect him." Unfortunately, this won't be Roy's last fight and he'll continue to take money in fights that aren't competitive. His performance last night reminds me of that Dave Chapelle skit where the rapper is always ABOUT to spit some hot rhyme but never does... he does this huge build-up to the rap "UGH....UGH....UGH.. I'm about to spit some hot shit.... yo, can you turn my mic up some?" and never actually does what everyone is anticipating. that's exactly what I thought about when I saw Jones feinting and faking as if he was about to unload that bomb that would change the fight but it never came. because he can't do it anymore.

thats a fair assessment, i wouldnt say jones is totally shot, he still has enough to beat the guys he's supposed to beat but not not enough to dominate the elite like he used to. the roy jones last night and in his 3 comeback wins could only show very brief flashes of what he once had a true shadow of his former self. he should've listened to his own advice, on the countdown show before the trinidad fight he said if he couldnt stop tito then he probably shouldnt be fighting anyway. i agree

i disagree, physically i know a younger jones wouldve had better legs, stamina and speed. he still looks hesistant to pull the trigger. he's not the same mentally or physically

i never said RJJ was physically the same as when he was younger, i said that he's still a physically-capable fighter but that mentally he is shot.

well the point he is at now physically cant get it done against top competition. his legs look very unsteady, he seems content to lay on the ropes to rest them. he still has retained some of his speed, but he can only throw single shots. physically that is enough to be some fighters but not the elite guys

Calzaghe beat an old, washed up Roy Jones, Jr.

Can you imagine if these guys fought in their prime? Roy would have halted him in the first round.

James Toney is a tougher fight in their prime than Joe.

This was a huge insignificant fight that happened last night. Joe is as good as he's ever been. He's still NEVER fought anyone. Jeff Lacey was a hyped up fighter, even he never beat anyone significant.

Kessler isn't a great fighter. Joe wouldn't beat a prime Hopkins, even the one that KO'd Tito. He didn't even beat an old Hopkins. When 43 year old man puts you on your ass and dumb judges award slapping punches as scoring blows, then you need to realize that you're not an elite fighter.

This Jones-Calzaghe fight was a money fight for both of these guys.. it doesn't even need to bring up discussion about anything.

He is old!! That is what old fighters do!! They see the opening and can't fill them. Did you see SRL vs Terry Norris or Ali vs Holmes? It has nothing, not even a little, nothing at all to do with him mentally. He is old and no longer has the reflexes to get it done. He can't see punches to slip'em and can't react fast enough to punch when there is an opening.

I dont know what makes u think that ? Chad Dawson is a prime fighter that can do damage to Joe . I agree it would be a good fight to watch . I still Favor BAD Chad to win that fight . In all honest if Chad would go to Wales to Fight Joe which is a GOOD start . Only makes things easier when in dealing with the promotion of the fight . I think Chad could stop Joe Cause the way he goes to the body is amazing . This will def be a great fight to watch I hope they make it .

And after Dawson loses, we'll be hearing that Dawson was overrated, wasn't a prime fighter, etc.

No doubt, but that loss won't come at the hands of Calzaghe. Joe lacks the power to beat a real top LHW fighter. Don't kid yourself, neither Hopkins or Jones are top LHW fighters. Jones landed a high % of his power shots and he was half blind and his reflexes gone, Dawson would do some damage. I'd feel differently if Calzaghe had some the ability to hurt a light heavyweight, but he hasn't. If he can't hurt Dawson what will keep Dawson from pound him in return with 70 or punches a round. Jones and Hopkins had low outputs against Calzaghe, but they have low output vs everyone. Jones and Hopkins have low outputs vs the punching bag in training camp . Dawson would be a different story.

I don't think anyone said he wouldn't fight Jones or that he was ducking Hopkins.

His is the best supermiddle weight of his era. He is great, but I don't think he's as great at LHW. He's had 2 fights at lightheavy and been put down and hurt in each. Both fights were against older and slower opponents that were clearly further from there prime than he is. Neither guy had shown the ability to thrown more than 30 punches per rounds in years. If they caught him and hurt him fighting younger, stronger, faster, more active, hungry lightheavies might not be a good ideal.
This doesn't mean Calzaghe isn't great, but he too is 36yrs old.

Who really gives a shit if ya knocked down, it's what you do when you get up that matters. Also the Hopkins knockdown was fuk all, the Jones knockdown was from a forearm to the conk... he got up dusted himself off and carried on fighting like fuk all had happened like he always had done.



And you can come up with negatives for him fighting Hopkins and Jones, but Hopkins looked fuking amazing in his last fight and Jones also looked good in his last fight even if it was against Trinidad.


So come on then, how the fuk can Calzaghe get everyone's respect... is it fight Dawson ?? and if he beats him I put money on it you will get the same fuking idiots waffleing the same shit about how green Dawson was etc.


Fuking make me wanna puke.


Oh yeah you say Jones was slower than Calzaghe, thats funny that cos there were legions of people leading up to the fight saying how Jones was still a lot faster than Calzaghe... they were wrong.